[flisol-devel] Novo Sistema de Registro

[Maxx Fonseca]

Olá Igor !
Igor TAmara wrote:
> Dear Maxx :), 
> 
> Maxx> Olá Igor !
> Maxx> 
> Maxx> 
> Maxx> 	Ok. if you read better in english, let's talk in
> Maxx> english/spanish/portuguese :-)
> Maxx> 
> 
> I guess we can practice our english then ;) , I really appreciate if
> we can do it, but if you see any problem with this, just let me
> know, if we can make some more people involved in l10ning and
> helping flysis, I'll try my best to read portuguese and promess to
> write in spanish, just let me know.

	Yea, but I don't know if others like to do the same and can understand 
us (I realy don't know). Better we talk in our native language, but this 
e-mail I'll response in english :-)
	More people involved in FliSys is wonderful, both in development and as 
helpers. Feel free to invite more people to help.
> 
> Maxx> 
> Maxx> 	We need to think in sponsors too, to help us in prepare the real 
> Maxx> 	event in our city and to mount a nice structure to our visitors.
> Maxx> 
> 
> I'm sorry, I don't remember any issue with accents or things like
> that, I'm sure we had little communication with people from the
> cities, but I know we've learned from past experiences.

	In season I had no time until the event and after I forget to report 
this problem, my fault :-(
> 
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >Si entendí bien, consruyeron una herramienta para cuadrar horario de
> Maxx> >conferencias.  Es una idea muy buena.
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >If I'm right, you constructed a tool to admin the conferences
> Maxx> >schedule.  It's a neat idea.
> Maxx> 
> Maxx> 	The FliSys idea is much more than a conferences sheduler. Still in 
> Maxx> develepoment (v0.3), but, high usable at now. The FliSys can be easily 
> Maxx> translated to any language (now we have portuguese and spanish comming 
> Maxx> soon, with help by all of you). And can easily to integrate with wiki.
> Maxx> 
> 
> Of course, I'll be motivating people here on l10n, by the way, I'm
> ikks on sourceforge if you want to add me as a helper ;).  In the
> past we made a clean plugin for moinmoin that let us create reports
> via sql queries and a macro, that let us add a form for the cities.
> The document that guided our work is at [a]
> 
> a.http://www.installfest.info/FLISOL2006/Ayudar/SistemaRegistro/Desarrollo?action=raw
> 
> On that doc, you can see how the macro could be used to show some
> queries.  We only need permissions on postgresql, the socket and
> preferably an ssl connection if we have one machine for the wiki and
> other for the db.

	I'll add you as helper in FliSys project at sf.net.
	This macro is very nice, because do not need a system behind, the wiki 
do it self, but, I'm a bit confused here, the wiki will be moinmoin or 
mediawiki or both?
	Jesus Christian Cruz Acono suggest use xml to integrate wiki (I think 
is mediawiki) with the system (FliSys). Looks like good. What you think?
	If realy will migrate the wiki to mediawiki, maybe we can develop a 
macro looks like this.
> 
> Maxx> 	The FliSys can register visitors, speakers and teams. Lectures and 
> Maxx> Workshops can be registered by a member and voted by teams. Statistics 
> Maxx> of install fest with numbers of installed machines, what installed 
> Maxx> software and much more can be add in future. Statistics of visitors, 
> Maxx> what yours city/village and your address, phone numbers, etc. To keep 
> Maxx> our visitors very closer of us in next events and creating a local 
> Maxx> community more united.
> Maxx> 
> 
> We haven thought about registering visitors, the people that brought
> the computer hardly kept in the db, I wouldn't blame the system, but
> the many things and details are involved on each city.

	I think that is more easy to maintain, if each local coordinator have 
your own local database (with local server or your own server and yours 
configurations and customizations) with yours visitors registers than 
maintain all of it on the Flisol server for years (or forever).
	In that scope, the Flisol server just maintain the statistics of each 
year and the records of local coordinators. In this way we gain more 
disk space and performance to implement other things. But, the local 
coordinators will have great responsibility in maintain your own local 
database for futures events and next local teams.
> 
> Maxx> 	I suggest that you try a Peter copy of FliSys at
> Maxx> http://hurlinux.com.ar/filsys/
> Maxx> 
> Maxx> user: admin
> Maxx> pwd: admin
> Maxx> 
> 
> I logged on succesfully, and looks pretty, I like your CSS :) , It
> would be nice to have a uniform CSS for the wiki and the system, to
> make them look the same if possible.  But I'm not good at it.

	Don't worry, the more important things is that you like FliSys and I 
hope that others like too :-)
> 
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >En qué motor de bases de datos está montado? 
> Maxx> >Which db engine are you using?
> Maxx> 
> Maxx> 	PostgreSQL. And the language is PHP, because the idea is that each 
> Maxx> regional team can easily configure a local web server with no especial 
> Maxx> configuration and is more know.
> Maxx> 
> 
> I see, previously we thought about centralicing, we sent an email
> whenever there was a new participant to let the maillist or the one
> who was in charge of event's logistic.  So they would be able to
> make some turns.

	Centralizing is more dificult to maintain, because each local have your 
own needs (and we don't want a white elephant) :-)
> 
> Maxx> 	After the event, the regional teams can easily and quickly send his 
> Maxx> statistics to us and we can make a automatic way to do it. With his
> Maxx> statistic, we can generate much more than only number of installed
> Maxx> machines in a general context.
> Maxx> 
> 
> I see, this is clever :)
> 
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >El código que usamos previamente está en [3], dado que zope tiene su
> Maxx> >propio sistema de versionamiento, si hacemos que funcione, podrás
> Maxx> >tener una cuenta y dar un vistazo al código, lo cual sería muy
> Maxx> >bueno.
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >The code used is on [3], zope has it's own versioning system, so if
> Maxx> >we make it run, You'll be able to get an account to take a look at
> Maxx> >the code, it would be really nice
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >3.http://igor.tamarapatino.org/flisol/flisolfiles.tar.gz
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >Adicionalmente, si me indicas tu nombrewiki en [4], te adicionaré al
> Maxx> >grupo de desarollo y podrás ver de forma gráfica el modelo entidad
> Maxx> >relación y los documentos que describen la construcción del sistema.
> Maxx> >
> Maxx> >By the way, if you give me your wiki username at [4], I will put you
> Maxx> >in the devel group, so you can see in a graphical way the er db
> Maxx> >model and the docs describing the construction of the system.
> Maxx> 
> Maxx> 	ok. My wikiname is maxxfonseca.
> Maxx> 
> 
> Please let me know if you are not able to see the page refered as
> [a]

	I see the page :-)
> 
> See ya.
> 
> 

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Maxx